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Jul. 26th, 2004 08:10 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ysobelleI still like Al Gore.
Edit to Add: And man, can Jimmy Carter open a can of whoop-ass or what?
Edit to Add: And man, can Jimmy Carter open a can of whoop-ass or what?
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Date: 2004-07-26 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-26 05:40 pm (UTC)"And I should know about economic lay-offs-- I was the first one laid off!" He was funny, snarky, and dead-right. Now Sen. Barbara Mikulski is waving the flag of Women in the Senate. Go, Barbara, go!
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Date: 2004-07-26 06:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-26 07:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-26 11:09 pm (UTC)And no, I am not a democrat. Just someone who can't afford to be apathetically moderate anymore.
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Date: 2004-07-26 11:28 pm (UTC)He's soft-spoken, and yes, extremely genteel-- but don't fuck with him.
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Date: 2004-07-27 02:15 am (UTC)politician is a politician is a politician
Date: 2004-07-27 06:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-27 02:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-27 06:00 am (UTC)I suggest maybe using it.
and what does dysfunctionally stable mean? wouldnt that be an oxymoron?
anyway
I think the democrats are finally pulling themselves together this is gonna be a really really good race.
side note my cousin was talking to me on his moms computer last night. He asked who the republicans were gonna have run for pres. I answered well Nick Bush is gonna be running. His exact reply
Wow uncle sean they dont have a snowballs chance in bermuda.
I promptly fell over laughing and spit mountain dew all over my keyboard.
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Date: 2004-07-27 06:34 am (UTC)and dysfunctional stable is only an oxymoron if you think stability is a good thing. a two party system encourages everyone to gravitate towards the middle of the road mainstream politics where the average joe idiot's ideas becomes the ruling ideas. as a result, the average democrates' politics are not much different from the average republicans'. so it doesn't matter who you elect, its all the same old shit. no one with any fresh revolutionary ideas or enlightened vision will get any mainstream support. the election becomes a sham of pointless excercise where the marginalized remains marginalized, the disenfranchised remains disenfranchised.
usually when someone proudly annonces him or herself as a democrat as if that's a badge of enlightenment or liberalism, i just have to laugh at the ridiculousness of it in a system where the two parties are so similar in action if not their platitudes to apease and appeal to the white middleclass morons that resist any change that might threaten their white picket fenced suburban fiefdom that some democrats are more conservative than republicans. such labels are completely meaningless. hence the reason i merely identify myself as a liberal with no particular loyalties to either party. the stability and the inertia of this deadweight system makes me sick.
[matt]
Date: 2004-07-27 08:15 am (UTC)Politician, yes. The resulting macro-level scumbag/idiot that anybody participating in the duopolistic system today can be regardless of any effort, sure. Heck, his administration was so loaded with cronies it was offensive...he gave conspiracy theorists so much material that he probably affected the book publishing economy.
But running solo, out of the system, I think he'd go a lot farther than a lot of the presidents we've had since. I think he gets credit here.
Also, in one area that I think Nikki is placing a lot of emphasis is his mannerism of speaking. I think he was the last one I liked in that regard. I can't stand the voices of anybody from Reagan on down. They all got horribly worse (imo) since. Like we're toddlers or something. Shit, maybe collectively we are, nobody's *really* complaining. Half the country still think Bush is all right.
Dysfunctional stability is a scary notion.....kind of like an earthquake ready to happen with two plates of earth, etc.
Anyway, which one of you is Kyle? And is it the Kyle I know? If not, have we met anyway? Are these vague questions that border on ridiculous?
Re: [matt]
Date: 2004-07-27 08:28 am (UTC)Kyle is Darth, he's a cop in Ohio. A former Rhinelander who loves to start trouble online. In person, he's just a big old sugarbear. Aren't you, Kyle?
Oh, and he's pretty hot, too.
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Date: 2004-07-27 11:57 am (UTC)Re: [matt]
Date: 2004-07-27 12:10 pm (UTC)Re: [matt]
Date: 2004-07-27 12:23 pm (UTC)Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-27 10:04 am (UTC)The question is whether to US form of gov't is *too* stable, in that it limits the voices of the extremes and potential third parties, thus stifling the voice of the minority - otherwise know as the tyranny of the majority, as coined by Alexis de Tocqueville in the 1800's.
Most modern democatic governments operate on parliamentary systems in which representation in the legislature is based on proportional voting among the electorate. For example: if 15% of the public votes for third or even fourth party, then 15% of the seats in the legislature would go to that party. On the contrary our system in the US is based on a geographic constituency, winner-take-all system, that effectively disenfranchises those who voted for the losting candidate/candidates. If you are a Democrat living in a Republican district you are effectively disenfranchised for as long as you live in that district. And we wonder why people don't vote. The electoral college has produced similar voter apathy, especially in strongly "red" or strongly "blue" states. Why vote, unless you live in a swing state?
Why vote? Because if you don't vote, you are effectively withdrawing from the national discourse. If you don't vote, then don't bitch. If the goal is to protest by not voting, then at least make a statement against the system by voting for a third party candidate. That's what I did in 2000 by voting for Nader. By voting for a "leftist" third party candidate you are bascially telling the Dems to get their act together and start acting like real liberal than the pussy moderates so many of them have become. And don't even get me started on the neo-con conspiracy!!
Re: Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-27 12:03 pm (UTC)and the rest, didn't i just say that? i know i said it because i was there when i said it.
but i still disagree about voting, i think we've had this argument before. i still insist if you vote, you then have no room to bitch because you've just willingly participated in pointless excercise. you are tainted by the system. i on the other hand are an outsider, unfettered and untainted by this whole process, free to make my snide comments and judgements from the sideline ;)
Re: Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-27 05:17 pm (UTC)But I think I like you!
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Date: 2004-07-27 10:02 pm (UTC)Re: Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-28 07:20 am (UTC)Re: Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-28 08:46 am (UTC)Re: Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-28 09:39 am (UTC)Re: Stability *is* a good thing
Date: 2004-07-28 05:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-27 07:51 am (UTC)Actually, you'd both probably get along really well in person. Hm. You should come for a visit, Kyle.
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Date: 2004-07-27 08:25 am (UTC)And Kyle. No i dont think people who disagree should leave. I think people who dont like the system and are unwilling to stay and help change it should leave. I see by your LJ your an Officer. If you believe so much in upholding the law and your not a Squirrel as you say than your one of the people trying to make a difference.
I think maybe you should come visit. Ill buy ya a few rounds and we can talk about politics than when were both angry enough about it we can go drink some more and scan the bars in the area. The women in Philadelphia are good looking but most of them are pretty dumb
}=O)
present company excluded .... of course
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Date: 2004-07-27 12:20 pm (UTC)but come to think i may have a couple of days next months...maybe i can hit philly and new york.
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Date: 2004-07-27 05:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-27 05:40 pm (UTC)