I'm sorry that your family was affected by the Holocaust. Many people were affected. I'm trying to read the Diary of Anne Frank in German. I'd love to get a copy of the original Dutch to work on learning some Dutch, too. What does the Holocaust have to do with the 1000 dead civilians in Lebanon, or the 75,000 or so people that are now homeless (that's what this thread is about).
Religion, nomatter how many people chose it, is still a choice. Eye color, isn't. Nor are your parents, grandparents, country of birth, first spoken language (unless you're particularly gifted). I don't judge a person for what they are born into. I judge a person for what they chose. Religion is the opiate of the masses. More people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason - just look at the Holocaust for an example.
If you want to belive that bombing civilians is an acceptable solution to a miltary action against soldiers, then you have problems. If you are Jewish, Christian, Pagan, Muslim or whatever, and think there are some sky pixies out there that will reward you for killing people (or saying "thank you", or wearing pretty clothes when you go to church/synagogue/mosqute/fire pit/whatever), then I am just baffled by it. "This bomb is from Daniele and Isreal" (to the Lebanese people that possibly died from it).
You can think I'm a fool, but that doesn't mean I am. You haven't even explained to me what your "verbal vomit" is from.
Here is the situation, as I see it: a few militant radicals attack some soldiers, and detain 2 (compare that to the 9,000 Palestinians - 1,000 held without charges) that are kidnapped and held in Israeli prisons (or the 500 people or so in Guantanamo Bay, etc).
Within hours, Israel reacts by blowing up civilian airports, power plants, bridges, roads, apartment complexes, farms, etc. The environmental damage caused by the oil spills alone is worse than the shit that happened in Alaska - and Israel wouldn't even let people try to clean it up before it continued to do more damage.
I am strongly opposed to destroying roads and treating civilians like ducks in a pond, that are shot just for walking around. (like in Palestine where people have been able to leave their constantly bombed country for 6 hours since Israel decided to continue their barrage on civilians).
So, point for point, what are your problems?
You are upset that I call a murderer a murderer?
That I am opposed to the killing of civilains in response to a military attack by rebels?
I wonder if Israel will even feel the least bit responsible for the wholesale damage they've done, and help them rebuild. I have my doubts.
You are upset that I dislike people that put religion before their family, like my Jewish ancestors (and mostly the Pennsylvania Dutch ones, too) - and that sums up most of my relationship with actual Jewish people?
You are upset because I find believe in god/religion akin to a mental illness because it makes no sense?
You are upset because I can separate a person from their religion, since imo, religion is only one tiny fraction of a person's life. I can still be friends with anyone, hell, I have been friends with ysobelle for over 6 years, until I guess she de-friended me because she can't see past my views on religion.
What makes me a bigot?
big·ot One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
I'm not intolerant of anyone. I just find religion to be a horrible thing for modern society. Too many people are killed because of it. I have all kinds of friends, even ones that chose to believe in sky pixies, or vote republican. I tolerate religion, just like I tolerate people with other illnesses - it doesn't mean I want to join them.
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Religion, nomatter how many people chose it, is still a choice. Eye color, isn't. Nor are your parents, grandparents, country of birth, first spoken language (unless you're particularly gifted). I don't judge a person for what they are born into. I judge a person for what they chose. Religion is the opiate of the masses. More people have been killed in the name of god than any other reason - just look at the Holocaust for an example.
If you want to belive that bombing civilians is an acceptable solution to a miltary action against soldiers, then you have problems. If you are Jewish, Christian, Pagan, Muslim or whatever, and think there are some sky pixies out there that will reward you for killing people (or saying "thank you", or wearing pretty clothes when you go to church/synagogue/mosqute/fire pit/whatever), then I am just baffled by it. "This bomb is from Daniele and Isreal" (to the Lebanese people that possibly died from it).
You can think I'm a fool, but that doesn't mean I am. You haven't even explained to me what your "verbal vomit" is from.
Here is the situation, as I see it:
a few militant radicals attack some soldiers, and detain 2 (compare that to the 9,000 Palestinians - 1,000 held without charges) that are kidnapped and held in Israeli prisons (or the 500 people or so in Guantanamo Bay, etc).
Within hours, Israel reacts by blowing up civilian airports, power plants, bridges, roads, apartment complexes, farms, etc. The environmental damage caused by the oil spills alone is worse than the shit that happened in Alaska - and Israel wouldn't even let people try to clean it up before it continued to do more damage.
I am strongly opposed to destroying roads and treating civilians like ducks in a pond, that are shot just for walking around. (like in Palestine where people have been able to leave their constantly bombed country for 6 hours since Israel decided to continue their barrage on civilians).
So, point for point, what are your problems?
You are upset that I call a murderer a murderer?
That I am opposed to the killing of civilains in response to a military attack by rebels?
I wonder if Israel will even feel the least bit responsible for the wholesale damage they've done, and help them rebuild. I have my doubts.
You are upset that I dislike people that put religion before their family, like my Jewish ancestors (and mostly the Pennsylvania Dutch ones, too) - and that sums up most of my relationship with actual Jewish people?
You are upset because I find believe in god/religion akin to a mental illness because it makes no sense?
You are upset because I can separate a person from their religion, since imo, religion is only one tiny fraction of a person's life. I can still be friends with anyone, hell, I have been friends with
What makes me a bigot?
big·ot
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
I'm not intolerant of anyone. I just find religion to be a horrible thing for modern society. Too many people are killed because of it. I have all kinds of friends, even ones that chose to believe in sky pixies, or vote republican. I tolerate religion, just like I tolerate people with other illnesses - it doesn't mean I want to join them.